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...before the New foundation is laid

3/9/2017

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FROM APPLE FARM WRITER, Mary Theis
Mary is a therapist living in the Chicago area.

   
I remember Apple Farm Founder Jane Bishop saying that we should pay attention to the news and understand what is going on in the world.  I can’t do that right now. I get too upset. One thing I can do is maintain my relationships with my siblings who voted for Donald Trump. And lately I have been interested in understanding where they are coming from.  When I talk with them, they sound very rational. I can’t find any cracks in their logic – in what they are saying.  So I just listen and also tell them what I think and feel about the situation. Our positive connection has been restored in this way, in fact even deepened.
    I cannot go along with my Quaker Friends. Many of them feel that we must do all we can to oppose what is happening. That is not my way. I don’t believe that Trump et al are the cause of the terrible rifts in our society. I believe that those rifts were there all along and they are being exposed and allowed to have more effect by the current political situation. This chaos is happening all over the world. 
    A few years ago a friend, who knows nothing about C. J. Jung, went to just one Jungian talk.  His takeaway from that talk is that there is nothing created without destruction. I think this is true. I think we are entering further into the chaos and destruction that is necessary before the new foundation is laid.
     I have been reading Depth Psychology and a New Ethic by Erich Neumann. I’m not sure when it was written, but it was translated into English in 1969.  Neumann says (Pg 29) that “…external collective developments are decades behind the development of the individual, which is like a kind of avant-garde of the collective and is concerned at a far earlier stage with the problems which subsequently catch the attention of the collective as a whole.  
    It is not difficult to understand why positive attempts at a solution appear earlier and are more easily recognizable in the development of the individual than in that of the collective…..In order to survive at all, he needs, as a matter not of arbitrary choice but of urgent necessity, the aid of the forces of the deep unconscious;  in them and in himself he may be able to find new ways, new forms of life, new values and new guiding symbols.”  
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Daniel Laguitton
3/9/2017 11:48:17 pm

With all due respect, I could not disagree more with the following part of the above comment: "I cannot go along with my Quaker Friends. Many of them feel that we must do all we can to oppose what is happening. That is not my way. I don’t believe that Trump et al are the cause of the terrible rifts in our society. I believe that those rifts were there all along and they are being exposed and allowed to have more effect by the current political situation. This chaos is happening all over the world."

My heartfelt response to that statement is that "Love thy enemy" has never been an invitation to become a passive bystander or an enabler.

The following paraphrase should make my point clear : There has always been and there always will be thieves, hate mongers, racists and rapists all over the world; when a group of such people enters my home I do not believe that they are the cause of all the terrible things done by all other such people in our society, I believe that such people and such behaviors were there all along and they are being exposed by the intruders; I know that allowing them to have their way will have a severe impact on my family, yet, I cannot go along with my friends who feel that I must do all I can to oppose what is happening. That is not my way...

Martin Niemöller's famous quote about passive by-standing comes to mind:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Not opposing hate mongering, lies, racism and bullying comes with a hefty price, albeit delayed, (opposing them too, sometimes much more swiftly!) and since passive by-standing is not my cup of tea, I hereby voice my opposition to it.

Respectfully,

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Mary Theis
4/19/2017 12:15:35 pm

Hello Daniel,

I appreciate your response. I believe I chose my words unskillfully. I certainly have a great deal of respect for my fellow Quakers and their speaking truth to power. And I am very supportive of their work. What I meant to say was that this is not my way - I respond more to situations I find myself in and reach out locally. It has taken me many years to understand and value what I have to contribute. I am just learning to put my beliefs into writing and am only discovering what I believe by writing about it. I hope you will be patient with me.

Thank You,

Mary

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Mey Hasbrook link
3/30/2017 08:24:20 pm

There is the work of relationship and the work of advocacy. Challenging policies and transforming institutions does not preclude the work of authentic, stretching relationship with humans. The choice isn't one or the other. I offer insights from an activist Quaker whose life commitment honored unity amidst difference while working for social change.

"To the true Quaker, every person the heavenly Father has made is a brother. If he has the scars and brands of evil upon him, if he has been bestead and wounded by the archers, all the more he needs the medicine of love and the balm of a brother's tender sympathy. Religion of simplicity creates no lines of division. It builds no compartments. Rather it wipes out such artificial barriers."

~Rufus Jones, a founder of American Friends Service Committee and the Friends World Committee for Consultation

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Mary Theis
4/19/2017 12:25:58 pm

Thank You Mey,

I realize that the work of relationship does not preclude the work of advocacy. It is just that I feel called much more to the work of spiritual development and relationship and trusting that any influence I have will come from who I am in those relationships. It has taken me a long time to own the value this as primary approach, especially as I am a Quaker and am surrounded by activists. I am very supportive of their work and admire them a great deal.

Mary

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